Still wondering who the real terrorists are ?

We live in a funny world, what is ok for me to do is not ok for you is a dictum of childhood playmates. How innocent lives and the blood spilt can be a price for percieved redemption in a world euphoric about human rights is the mother of all paradoxes.

Whilst a majority of the world are over consuming and frolicking in celebration of what is yet another end to a cycle of 365 days, over 200 innocent civilians were slaughtered in an exhibition of mass brutality in Gaza.

How does the world feel about Obama pledging to “forge an unshakeable bond” with the “miracle” of Terrorist Israel?

How do we feel about the EU rewarding Israel for its terrorist acts with enhanced benefits under the EU-Israel Association Agreement?

The Best Gordon Brown could do was to urge “restraint”, as opposed to urging Isreal to end the siege.

If i remember right, President Rajapakse is the founder chairman of the Sri Lankan Committee for Solidarity with Palestine for the last thirt years, has the Sri Lankan government condemned the attacks in Gaza? i still have not heard, i dont know if they have.

According to the U.S.’s own definition of terrorism Israel is squarely in the frame. Under Section 3 of Executive Order 13224 “Blocking Property and prohibiting Transactions with Persons who commit, threaten to commit, or support Terrorism”, the term “terrorism” means an activity that…

(i) involves a violent act or an act dangerous to human life, property, or infrastructure; and

(ii) appears to be intended

• to intimidate or coerce a civilian population;

• to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or

• to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination,
kidnapping, or hostage-taking.

The order and its definition of terrorism, signed 23 September 2001 by George W Bush, is used to outlaw and crush any organization, individual or country the U.S. doesn’t like. The Israeli regime’s “amoral thugs”, as a British MP branded them, have plainly been terrorizing the Palestinians for the last 60 years.

The only peaceful means of achieving a lasting peace is for Western leaders to pull the plug on Israel until the regime conforms to international law and the will of the United Nations (without whose misguided generosity there would never have been a state of Israel), pulls back behind the 1967 border and strictly observes the principles of universal human rights.

If they don’t shoulder their responsibility, they risk a mighty moral backlash from ordinary people, who are beginning to learn the awful truth.

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  1. yes it is sad. Hey but why does every one blame only Israel? Who started the aggression first? It was the bloody racist hamas that first launched missile attacks into Israel. Let me guess, you are a muslim.Sri lankans(actually the whole world is) are big hypocrites. When LTTE attacks it is terrorism and we have the right to defend. But when big headed Jihadists attack israel it is israels fault.Ah really, did a british MP said so about israel? Europeans and Muslims have been persecuting jews for over 2000 years.Maybe he has forgotten it.

  2. @anon :”who started the aggresion first”, i understand that your memory stretches only a few weeks to a few months back.Before 1948 there was no state of Isreal, it was carved out of palestine by a UN mandate, It was a form of relief and resettlement for the Jews who suffered in the Holocaust..but Hell! they had to put them in palestine!? there was no other land in the world? More than 3/4 of the Isreali population are a migrant population (from europe)., and are not native jews, I am not very sure of the 3/4 but a considerable amount.And when you say palestinians, it not necessarily muslims, palestinians are people who are natives of palestine, and Christians of palestine suffer from Isreal as much as Muslims of palestine do.So how would you feel about a smal room in your house being forcefully given to a refugee who sufferef thousands of miles away and then the refugee starts persecuting you and your family in your own house, from the security of his small room? with the connivance of his rich and powerful friend who lives a few neighbourhoods away?Forget about the UN mandate (it doest deserve to be forgotten), but for the sake of argument.In 1967 Isreal attacked and occupied The Gaza strip from Egypt, it was not part of the State of Isreal as stipulated by the UN Mandate.and you ask me who started the aggression eh?Despite your warped definition of “terrorist”, i would like to stress the fact that, whether the govt attacks the LTTE or Isreal attacks Hamas or Any other two factions fight, i vehemently condemn the killing of Innocent civilians., as is currently taking place in Gaza.I say these things not as a Muslim, a Christian or a Jew, i have not at all mentioned religion. It is my humanist outlook that i articulating itself,. I dont understand how your myopic doctrine has audacity to bring in religion to the fray.”Europeans and Muslims”, heh! it should either be “Christians and Muslims” or “Europeans or Middle Easterners”, as thats where you find the most dense concentration of Muslims and Christians.Anyway ill play by your rules. Ok the world saw the european persecution of Jews,can you pls give me historical evidence of the Muslims giving such tangible persecution to the Jews?Best!

  3. First of all the UN mandate was to create two states, one for jews and one for Arabs. It was the Arabs who refused this and went to war with the jews. British left Palestine and jews won the war against the whole Arab world and established their country. Face the reality if there is ever going to be peace in Palestine it would have to be done as two states as originally planned. If that is to happen the Hamas has to go. It was originally the jews who were living in Jerusalem and around it. Many invasions specifically European invasions contributed to the expulsion of jews from their lands. And the last and the biggest invasion was done by the ottoman empire which was a Muslim empire and that is how the muslims came to the area now know as Israel and Palestine. So yes in 1930 Palestine was a Muslim dominated land, but before that those were lands of the Israelite kingdoms. If you want history go the very beginning, don’t stop at convenient spots. And as you specifically wanted the muslim persecution of jews happened after the ottoman conquest of Jerusalem. we all know Muslims were only in the Arabian areas in the beginning. Other regions were converted into muslim societies through conquests and invasions. Even countries like Iran and Iraq were converted through invasion(now those buggers think it is their duty to safe guard the muslim world, only if they knew the truth!). They even tried to conquest Europe, succeeded in invading and ruling Spain but eventually it back fired. Since you have said that you are saying this as a humanist i found it really amusing that you have never condemned the Hamas. The militant Zionists are a problem but it is the Hamas and the Jihadists that are the problem number 1. Don’t misunderstand, my heart goes to all the Palestine brothers and sisters who died and would die in the coming bloody days. May a miracle happen and let the peace usher in Palestine.

  4. I think Mr.Anonymous needs good schooling in History to understand who did what. It is better for Mr.Anonymous to learn or depart.This is a war not between the Jews and Arabs. This is a war between the Zionists and the world. Very unfortunately this is taking place in the Arab Christian & Arab Muslim Land. The Zionists are a 18th Century Creation by Theodore Herzel. My Brother read His tory:)

  5. Anonymous does articulate his points well, but his stand is irrational, baseless and makes a mockery of historical evidence. The problem that the Arabs have is not with the Jews; rather it’s the doctrine of Zionism. The conflict was never a Muslim against Jews, but Arabs against Zionists.Being Arab is not limited only to Muslims, but also Ethnic Christians and Jews. Similarly Zionism is not limited only to the Jews but also people of other faiths who carry the same destructive ideology of creating a state at the expense of another people.An Anonymous statement was made about Iran and it being converted to Muslim country via invasion. . Iran was never a Jewish Country but had an influx of fire worshippers popularly known as Zoroastrians. These people converted to monotheistic religions (Judaism, Christianity and Islam on pure choice) in observing the seemingly civilized lives led by the Christian Romans and the Muslim Ottomans at a later stage.”Iranian Jews in the vicissitudes history of this Islamic country always tried to have good coexistence with their compatriots. Although in many of historical epochs, problems and sometimes disasters have happened for this society but the vigilance and wisdom of Muslim and Jewish leaders has prohibited the continuation or recurrence of those problems and disasters. After the Islamic Revolution of Iran in 1979, despite the emphasis of the Constitution on formality and maintaining the rights of Jewish, Christian and Zoroastrian religious minorities, social pressures exerted on this community caused emigration of many of them. However, the coherence of this community was maintained by efforts of Jewish community authorities and through many meetings with leaders and heads of administrative, legislative and judiciary as well as legal proceedings, welfare and security of Jewish citizens was maintains at a somewhat desirable level. Now, the relations of Jewish authorities with high-ranking officials of the state are at a very desirable level. In spite of some humiliations from some of the journals and the mass media to the rights and religious sanctity of Jews, Jewish authorities view the problem largely due to actions of political Zionism and the regime of Israel, which sometimes causes suspicion toward all of Iranian and the world Jews. Jewish Committee while responding and prosecuting these humiliations and misunderstandings toward the Jewish religion and culture, has always been formally announcing the separation of sanctity and religious causes of the Jewish community from Zionist political objectives and in many instances, has protested against crimes of Israeli regime and violation of human rights by this regime.”Courtesy of: http://www.iranjewish.com/Essay_E/Essay_e1.htmYou can also see for yourself the difference between Zionism and Jews in the following video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBNMDjj5LKcMuslims and Islam came to Spain not as conquerors, but as scouts sent by the ruling Khalif to rid the Majority Christian community (as per their request) from the marauding Gothic invaders persecution. Muslims were permitted to inter marry and set up homes in these new lands as a means of gratitude for their actions.All people who have an ounce of humanity in them vehemently denounce the actions of Hitler and his slaughter of 6 million Jews. However, the Zionists have inflicted the same and more on a helpless nation for 60 years and more and the rolling heads are too many to count. Human lives are sacred in either side, but as opposed to Newton’s law the reaction that Hamas does is opposite but never equal!! It can never match the sophisticated weapons and machinery that the killing machine thrives upon. Each rocket they shoot is to avenge one or more family members of theirs who have been either slaughtered or held in detention camps-children and minors not exempted. The strikes that Israel does is in a far larger scale and pre-emptive in nature and can never be justified by prudence.Finally, just as a means of comparison, the issue of Kashmir is very similar to the long standing conflict in Palestine, but it very rarely kindles the same amount of emotions, CONSISTENT retaliatory attacks and media coverage because both sides wage war on common rules with one not having an edge over the other.Let’s not make this a debate, but accept the fact that human lives are being lost while we try to outdo each other on our relatively safe houses while somewhere in this civilized world a whole nation is being given bombs and grief as their new years gift!

  6. Bard,Yes there are jews who are critical of Israel just as there are Muslims who have understood the reality that Isreal is here to stay. That is why many Arab nations have accepted Israel’s right ton exist. And for a change, here is a web site of arabs who support isrealhttp://www.arabsforisrael.com/Yes Israels conduct against Palestine is a shame, just like that it was also a shame how 7 Arab nations invaded a country called Israel in 1948 which was less than 1 day old. For over 2000 years, jews were forced out from their lands and then they came back to their long lost lands hoping to create a country and they did.How are we going to complain against that. At least i propose a solution, two states one called Israel the other Palestine. What are you suggesting? Force the jews out of Israel who came after 1920 and establish one Palestine? If my solution is to work, Militant Zionists must lose the political power they enjoy in Israel and at the same time Hamas must also lose their political power in Palestine. So if you are really humanists criticize the hamas too. Unbelievable how you don’t see the lost of human lives when Jihadists blow themselves up or propel rockets into civilians.

  7. The colonisation of Palestine by Zionists was wrong but at this stage there is no point looking to the rights and wrongs of the past. Examining the history of the conflict is an interesting exercise but we should not allow history to cloud our judgement.As in Sri Lanka and everywhere else, there is little point arguing over history: a solution needs to look to the present and the future.Thanks to the unstinting support of the US, Israel has been able to ignore the UN and the rest of the world. If the attitude of the US changes then some progress can be made on the path to a solution.The siege of the Gaza strip will not help in formulation of a long term solution.

  8. I would agree with Anon, on a two state solution based roughly on the 1967 borders.

  9. Cheers Bard for CHipping in.Ok Anon this thread has reached a cul de sac!, i avoided responding because you bring the most bizarre historical citations and you seem not to approach the problem holistically, instead you keep trying to mitigate the symptom and not treat the disease full.”It was originally the jews who were living in Jerusalem and around it.” – that was 2000 years ago!!! and that we know from what the bible tells us..yes it is true, but that was 2 millenia ago. So what are you implying? that the land be givien to the Jews?This would create an interesting socio geographical dynamic, if each country seeks what is ancesterally theirs.”Such fragmentary records as we have indicate that the Jews were wandering nomads from Iraq who moved to southern Turkey, came south to Palestine, stayed there a short time, and then passed to Egypt, where they remained about 400 years. About 1300 BC (according to your calendar) they left Egypt and gradually conquered most—but not all—of the inhabitants of Palestine.It is significant that the Philistines—not the Jews—gave their name to the country: “Palestine” is merely the Greek form of “Philistia.”Only once, during the empire of David and Solomon, did the Jews ever control nearly—but not all—the land which is today Palestine. This empire lasted only 70 years, ending in 926 BC. Only 250 years later the Kingdom of Judah had shrunk to a small province around Jerusalem, barely a quarter of modern Palestine.In 63 BC the Jews were conquered by Roman Pompey, and never again had even the vestige of independence. The Roman Emperor Hadrian finally wiped them out about 135 AD. He utterly destroyed Jerusalem, rebuilt under another name, and for hundreds of years no Jew was permitted to enter it. A handful of Jews remained in Palestine but the vast majority were killed or scattered to other countries, in the Diaspora, or the Great Dispersion. From that time Palestine ceased to be a Jewish country, in any conceivable sense.This was 1,815 years ago, and yet the Jews solemnly pretend they still own Palestine! If such fantasy were allowed, how the map of the world would dance about!Italians might claim England, which the Romans held so long. England might claim France, “homeland” of the conquering Normans. And the French Normans might claim Norway, where their ancestors originated. And incidentally, we Arabs might claim Spain, which we held for 700 years.Many Mexicans might claim Spain, “homeland” of their forefathers. They might even claim Texas, which was Mexican until 100 years ago. And suppose the American Indians claimed the “homeland” of which they were the sole, native, and ancient occupants until only some 450 years ago!I am not being facetious. All these claims are just as valid—or just as fantastic—as the Jewish “historic connection” with Palestine. Most are more valid.In any event, the great Moslem expansion about 650 AD finally settled things. It dominated Palestine completely. From that day on, Palestine was solidly Arabic in population, language, and religion. When British armies entered the country during the last war, they found 500,000 Arabs and only 65,000 Jews.If solid, uninterrupted Arab occupation for nearly 1,300 years does not make a country “Arab”, what does?””And as you specifically wanted the muslim persecution of jews happened after the ottoman conquest of Jerusalem.” – The Ottomans Conquered Palestine??? oh gimme a break! says who?????? cna you pls quote the reference you got that from?Anyway, mate as much as i respect your sincereity in this issue, and your kind comments which were very welcome ,i guess my responses to your comments end here. You and I are fighting each other with cliche after cliche and it only boosts our intention to over power the other and by no means helps the innocent civilians of Gaza who are dying by the day, and Isreal keeps attacking them with the Connivance of those who could have stopped it but will never will with the Zionist Lobby controlling major stakes.”At least i propose a solution, two states one called Israel the other Palestine.” This will never work, as Isreal keeps expanding and will never cease to, naturally with the populoation desity they have they have to have more land, and that will be incentive enough (amongst others) to occupy palestinian land..History speaks for itself.I am pasting below a speech made by King Hussein in 1948, and it will clarify a lot of your doubts, and if you still wish not to belive, i am sorry mate you are a prisoner of your own stubbornness.”As the Arabs see the Jews”His Majesty King Abdullah,The American MagazineNovember, 1947I am especially delighted to address an American audience, for the tragic problem of Palestine will never be solved without American understanding, American sympathy, American support.So many billions of words have been written about Palestine—perhaps more than on any other subject in history—that I hesitate to add to them. Yet I am compelled to do so, for I am reluctantly convinced that the world in general, and America in particular, knows almost nothing of the true case for the Arabs.We Arabs follow, perhaps far more than you think, the press of America. We are frankly disturbed to find that for every word printed on the Arab side, a thousand are printed on the Zionist side.There are many reasons for this. You have many millions of Jewish citizens interested in this question. They are highly vocal and wise in the ways of publicity. There are few Arab citizens in America, and we are as yet unskilled in the technique of modern propaganda.The results have been alarming for us. In your press we see a horrible caricature and are told it is our true portrait. In all justice, we cannot let this pass by default.Our case is quite simple: For nearly 2,000 years Palestine has been almost 100 per cent Arab. It is still preponderantly Arab today, in spite of enormous Jewish immigration. But if this immigration continues we shall soon be outnumbered—a minority in our home.Palestine is a small and very poor country, about the size of your state of Vermont. Its Arab population is only about 1,200,000. Already we have had forced on us, against our will, some 600,000 Zionist Jews. We are threatened with many hundreds of thousands more.Our position is so simple and natural that we are amazed it should even be questioned. It is exactly the same position you in America take in regard to the unhappy European Jews. You are sorry for them, but you do not want them in your country.We do not want them in ours, either. Not because they are Jews, but because they are foreigners. We would not want hundreds of thousands of foreigners in our country, be they Englishmen or Norwegians or Brazilians or whatever.Think for a moment: In the last 25 years we have had one third of our entire population forced upon us. In America that would be the equivalent of 45,000,000 complete strangers admitted to your country, over your violent protest, since 1921. How would you have reacted to that?Because of our perfectly natural dislike of being overwhelmed in our own homeland, we are called blind nationalists and heartless anti-Semites. This charge would be ludicrous were it not so dangerous.No people on earth have been less “anti-Semitic” than the Arabs. The persecution of the Jews has been confined almost entirely to the Christian nations of the West. Jews, themselves, will admit that never since the Great Dispersion did Jews develop so freely and reach such importance as in Spain when it was an Arab possession. With very minor exceptions, Jews have lived for many centuries in the Middle East, in complete peace and friendliness with their Arab neighbours.Damascus, Baghdad, Beirut and other Arab centres have always contained large and prosperous Jewish colonies. Until the Zionist invasion of Palestine began, these Jews received the most generous treatment—far, far better than in Christian Europe. Now, unhappily, for the first time in history, these Jews are beginning to feel the effects of Arab resistance to the Zionist assault. Most of them are as anxious as Arabs to stop it. Most of these Jews who have found happy homes among us resent, as we do, the coming of these strangers.I was puzzled for a long time about the odd belief which apparently persists in America that Palestine has somehow “always been a Jewish land.” Recently an American I talked to cleared up this mystery. He pointed out that the only things most Americans know about Palestine are what they read in the Bible. It was a Jewish land in those days, they reason, and they assume it has always remained so.Nothing could be farther from the truth. It is absurd to reach so far back into the mists of history to argue about who should have Palestine today, and I apologise for it. Yet the Jews do this, and I must reply to their “historic claim.” I wonder if the world has ever seen a stranger sight than a group of people seriously pretending to claim a land because their ancestors lived there some 2,000 years ago!If you suggest that I am biased, I invite you to read any sound history of the period and verify the facts.Such fragmentary records as we have indicate that the Jews were wandering nomads from Iraq who moved to southern Turkey, came south to Palestine, stayed there a short time, and then passed to Egypt, where they remained about 400 years. About 1300 BC (according to your calendar) they left Egypt and gradually conquered most—but not all—of the inhabitants of Palestine.It is significant that the Philistines—not the Jews—gave their name to the country: “Palestine” is merely the Greek form of “Philistia.”Only once, during the empire of David and Solomon, did the Jews ever control nearly—but not all—the land which is today Palestine. This empire lasted only 70 years, ending in 926 BC. Only 250 years later the Kingdom of Judah had shrunk to a small province around Jerusalem, barely a quarter of modern Palestine.In 63 BC the Jews were conquered by Roman Pompey, and never again had even the vestige of independence. The Roman Emperor Hadrian finally wiped them out about 135 AD. He utterly destroyed Jerusalem, rebuilt under another name, and for hundreds of years no Jew was permitted to enter it. A handful of Jews remained in Palestine but the vast majority were killed or scattered to other countries, in the Diaspora, or the Great Dispersion. From that time Palestine ceased to be a Jewish country, in any conceivable sense.This was 1,815 years ago, and yet the Jews solemnly pretend they still own Palestine! If such fantasy were allowed, how the map of the world would dance about!Italians might claim England, which the Romans held so long. England might claim France, “homeland” of the conquering Normans. And the French Normans might claim Norway, where their ancestors originated. And incidentally, we Arabs might claim Spain, which we held for 700 years.Many Mexicans might claim Spain, “homeland” of their forefathers. They might even claim Texas, which was Mexican until 100 years ago. And suppose the American Indians claimed the “homeland” of which they were the sole, native, and ancient occupants until only some 450 years ago!I am not being facetious. All these claims are just as valid—or just as fantastic—as the Jewish “historic connection” with Palestine. Most are more valid.In any event, the great Moslem expansion about 650 AD finally settled things. It dominated Palestine completely. From that day on, Palestine was solidly Arabic in population, language, and religion. When British armies entered the country during the last war, they found 500,000 Arabs and only 65,000 Jews.If solid, uninterrupted Arab occupation for nearly 1,300 years does not make a country “Arab”, what does?The Jews say, and rightly, that Palestine is the home of their religion. It is likewise the birthplace of Christianity, but would any Christian nation claim it on that account? In passing, let me say that the Christian Arabs—and there are many hundreds of thousands of them in the Arab World—are in absolute agreement with all other Arabs in opposing the Zionist invasion of Palestine.May I also point out that Jerusalem is, after Mecca and Medina, the holiest place in Islam. In fact, in the early days of our religion, Moslems prayed toward Jerusalem instead of Mecca.The Jewish “religious claim” to Palestine is as absurd as the “historic claim.” The Holy Places, sacred to three great religions, must be open to all, the monopoly of none. Let us not confuse religion and politics.We are told that we are inhumane and heartless because do not accept with open arms the perhaps 200,000 Jews in Europe who suffered so frightfully under Nazi cruelty, and who even now—almost three years after war’s end—still languish in cold, depressing camps.Let me underline several facts. The unimaginable persecution of the Jews was not done by the Arabs: it was done by a Christian nation in the West. The war which ruined Europe and made it almost impossible for these Jews to rehabilitate themselves was fought by the Christian nations of the West. The rich and empty portions of the earth belong, not to the Arabs, but to the Christian nations of the West.And yet, to ease their consciences, these Christian nations of the West are asking Palestine—a poor and tiny Moslem country of the East—to accept the entire burden. “We have hurt these people terribly,” cries the West to the East. “Won’t you please take care of them for us?”We find neither logic nor justice in this. Are we therefore “cruel and heartless nationalists”?We are a generous people: we are proud that “Arab hospitality” is a phrase famous throughout the world. We are a humane people: no one was shocked more than we by the Hitlerite terror. No one pities the present plight of the desperate European Jews more than we.But we say that Palestine has already sheltered 600,000 refugees. We believe that is enough to expect of us—even too much. We believe it is now the turn of the rest of the world to accept some of them.I will be entirely frank with you. There is one thing the Arab world simply cannot understand. Of all the nations of the earth, America is most insistent that something be done for these suffering Jews of Europe. This feeling does credit to the humanity for which America is famous, and to that glorious inscription on your Statue of Liberty.And yet this same America—the richest, greatest, most powerful nation the world has ever known—refuses to accept more than a token handful of these same Jews herself!I hope you will not think I am being bitter about this. I have tried hard to understand that mysterious paradox, and I confess I cannot. Nor can any other Arab.Perhaps you have been informed that “the Jews in Europe want to go to no other place except Palestine.”This myth is one of the greatest propaganda triumphs of the Jewish Agency for Palestine, the organisation which promotes with fanatic zeal the emigration to Palestine. It is a subtle half-truth, thus doubly dangerous.The astounding truth is that nobody on earth really knows where these unfortunate Jews really want to go!You would think that in so grave a problem, the American, British, and other authorities responsible for the European Jews would have made a very careful survey, probably by vote, to find out where each Jew actually wants to go. Amazingly enough this has never been done! The Jewish Agency has prevented it.Some time ago the American Military Governor in Germany was asked at a press conference how he was so certain that all Jews there wanted to go to Palestine. His answer was simple: “My Jewish advisors tell me so.” He admitted no poll had ever been made. Preparations were indeed begun for one, but the Jewish Agency stepped in to stop it.The truth is that the Jews in German camps are now subjected to a Zionist pressure campaign which learned much from the Nazi terror. It is dangerous for a Jew to say that he would rather go to some other country, not Palestine. Such dissenters have been severely beaten, and worse.Not long ago, in Palestine, nearly 1,000 Austrian Jews informed the international refugee organisation that they would like to go back to Austria, and plans were made to repatriate them.The Jewish Agency heard of this, and exerted enough political pressure to stop it. It would be bad propaganda for Zionism if Jews began leaving Palestine. The nearly 1,000 Austrian are still there, against their will.The fact is that most of the European Jews are Western in culture and outlook, entirely urban in experience and habits. They cannot really have their hearts set on becoming pioneers in the barren, arid, cramped land which is Palestine.One thing, however, is undoubtedly true. As matters stand now, most refugee Jews in Europe would, indeed, vote for Palestine, simply because they know no other country will have them.If you or I were given a choice between a near-prison camp for the rest of our lives—or Palestine—we would both choose Palestine, too.But open up any other alternative to them—give them any other choice, and see what happens!No poll, however, will be worth anything unless the nations of the earth are willing to open their doors—just a little—to the Jews. In other words, if in such a poll a Jew says he wants to go to Sweden, Sweden must be willing to accept him. If he votes for America, you must let him come in.Any other kind of poll would be a farce. For the desperate Jew, this is no idle testing of opinion: this is a grave matter of life or death. Unless he is absolutely sure that his vote means something, he will always vote for Palestine, so as not to risk his bird in the hand for one in the bush.In any event, Palestine can accept no more. The 65,000 Jews in Palestine in 1918 have jumped to 600,000 today. We Arabs have increased, too, but not by immigration. The Jews were then a mere 11 per cent of our population. Today they are one third of it.The rate of increase has been terrifying. In a few more years—unless stopped now—it will overwhelm us, and we shall be an important minority in our own home.Surely the rest of the wide world is rich enough and generous enough to find a place for 200,000 Jews—about one third the number that tiny, poor Palestine has already sheltered. For the rest of the world, it is hardly a drop in the bucket. For us it means national suicide.We are sometimes told that since the Jews came to Palestine, the Arab standard of living has improved. This is a most complicated question. But let us even assume, for the argument, that it is true. We would rather be a bit poorer, and masters of our own home. Is this unnatural?The sorry story of the so-called “Balfour Declaration,” which started Zionist immigration into Palestine, is too complicated to repeat here in detail. It is grounded in broken promises to the Arabs—promises made in cold print which admit no denying.We utterly deny its validity. We utterly deny the right of Great Britain to give away Arab land for a “national home” for an entirely foreign people.Even the League of Nations sanction does not alter this. At the time, not a single Arab state was a member of the League. We were not allowed to say a word in our own defense.I must point out, again in friendly frankness, that America was nearly as responsible as Britain for this Balfour Declaration. President Wilson approved it before it was issued, and the American Congress adopted it word for word in a joint resolution on 30th June, 1922.In the 1920s, Arabs were annoyed and insulted by Zionist immigration, but not alarmed by it. It was steady, but fairly small, as even the Zionist founders thought it would remain. Indeed for some years, more Jews left Palestine than entered it—in 1927 almost twice as many.But two new factors, entirely unforeseen by Britain or the League or America or the most fervent Zionist, arose in the early thirties to raise the immigration to undreamed heights. One was the World Depression; the second the rise of Hitler.In 1932, the year before Hitler came to power, only 9,500 Jews came to Palestine. We did not welcome them, but we were not afraid that, at that rate, our solid Arab majority would ever be in danger.But the next year—the year of Hitler—it jumped to 30,000! In 1934 it was 42,000! In 1935 it reached 61,000!It was no longer the orderly arrival of idealist Zionists. Rather, all Europe was pouring its frightened Jews upon us. Then, at last, we, too, became frightened. We knew that unless this enormous influx stopped, we were, as Arabs, doomed in our Palestine homeland. And we have not changed our minds.I have the impression that many Americans believe the trouble in Palestine is very remote from them, that America had little to do with it, and that your only interest now is that of a humane bystander.I believe that you do not realise how directly you are, as a nation, responsible in general for the whole Zionist move and specifically for the present terrorism. I call this to your attention because I am certain that if you realise your responsibility you will act fairly to admit it and assume it.Quite aside from official American support for the “National Home” of the Balfour Declaration, the Zionist settlements in Palestine would have been almost impossible, on anything like the current scale, without American money. This was contributed by American Jewry in an idealistic effort to help their fellows.The motive was worthy: the result were disastrous. The contributions were by private individuals, but they were almost entirely Americans, and, as a nation, only America can answer for it.The present catastrophe may be laid almost entirely at your door. Your government, almost alone in the world, is insisting on the immediate admission of 100,000 more Jews into Palestine—to be followed by countless additional ones. This will have the most frightful consequences in bloody chaos beyond anything ever hinted at in Palestine before.It is your press and political leadership, almost alone in the world, who press this demand. It is almost entirely American money which hires or buys the “refugee ships” that steam illegally toward Palestine: American money which pays their crews. The illegal immigration from Europe is arranged by the Jewish Agency, supported almost entirely by American funds. It is American dollars which support the terrorists, which buy the bullets and pistols that kill British soldiers—your allies—and Arab citizens—your friends.We in the Arab world were stunned to hear that you permit open advertisements in newspapers asking for money to finance these terrorists, to arm them openly and deliberately for murder. We could not believe this could really happen in the modern world. Now we must believe it: we have seen the advertisements with our own eyes.I point out these things because nothing less than complete frankness will be of use. The crisis is too stark for mere polite vagueness which means nothing.I have the most complete confidence in the fair-mindedness and generosity of the American public. We Arabs ask no favours. We ask only that you know the full truth, not half of it. We ask only that when you judge the Palestine question, you put yourselves in our place.What would your answer be if some outside agency told you that you must accept in America many millions of utter strangers in your midst—enough to dominate your country—merely because they insisted on going to America, and because their forefathers had once lived there some 2,000 years ago?Our answer is the same.And what would be your action if, in spite of your refusal, this outside agency began forcing them on you?Ours will be the same.the above was taken from – http://jestforkicks.blogspot.com/2008/12/as-arabs-see-jews.html Take Care mate, enjoy your Holidays.

  10. Israel’s decision to launch its devastating attack on Gaza on a Saturday was a “stroke of brilliance”, the country’s biggest selling paper Yediot Aharonot crowed: “the element of surprise increased the number of people who were killed”. The daily Ma’ariv agreed: “We left them in shock and awe”.Of the ferocity of the assault on one of the most overcrowded and destitute corners of the earth, there is at least no question. In the bloodiest onslaught on blockaded Gaza since it was captured and occupied by Israel 41 years ago, at least 310 people were killed and more than a thousand reported injured in the first 48 hours alone.As well as scores of ordinary police officers incinerated in a passing-out parade, at least 56 civilians were said by the UN to have died as Israel used American-supplied F-16s and Apache helicopters to attack a string of civilian targets it linked to Hamas, including a mosque, private homes and the Islamic university. Hamas military and political facilities were mostly deserted, while police stations in residential areas were teeming as they were pulverised.As Israeli journalist Amos Harel wrote in Ha’aretz at the weekend, “little or no weight was apparently devoted to the question of harming innocent civilians”, as in US operations in Iraq. Among those killed in the first wave of strikes were eight teenage students waiting for a bus and four girls from the same family in Jabaliya, aged one to 12 years old.Anyone who doubts the impact of these atrocities among Arabs and Muslims worldwide should switch on the satellite television stations that are watched avidly across the Middle East and which – unlike their western counterparts – do not habitually sanitise the barbarity meted out in the name of multiple wars on terror.Then, having seen a child dying in her parent’s arms live on TV, consider what sort of western response there would have been to an attack on Israel, or the US or Britain for that matter, which left more than 300 dead in a couple of days.You can be certain it would be met with the most sweeping condemnation, that the US president-elect would do a great deal more than “monitor” the situation and the British prime minister go much further than simply call for “restraint” on both sides.But that is in fact all they did do, though the British government has since joined the call for a ceasefire. There has, of course, been no western denunciation of the Israeli slaughter – such aerial destruction is, after all, routinely called in by the US and Britain in occupied Iraq and Afghanistan.Instead, Hamas and the Palestinians of Gaza are held responsible for what has been visited upon them. How could any government not respond with overwhelming force to the constant firing of rockets into its territory, the Israelis demand, echoed by western governments and media.But that is to turn reality on its head. Like the West Bank, the Gaza Strip has been – and continues to be – illegally occupied by Israel since 1967. Despite the withdrawal of troops and settlements three years ago, Israel maintains complete control of the territory by sea, air and land. And since Hamas won the Palestinian elections in 2006, Israel has punished its 1.5 million people with an inhuman blockade of essential supplies, backed by the US and the European Union.Like any occupied people, the Palestinians have the right to resist, whether they choose to exercise it or not. But there is no right of defence for an illegal occupation – there is an obligation to withdraw comprehensively. During the last seven years, 14 Israelis have been killed by mostly homemade rockets fired from the Gaza Strip, while more than 5,000 Palestinians were killed by Israel with some of the most advanced US-supplied armaments in the world. And while no rockets are fired from the West Bank, 45 Palestinians have died there at Israel’s hands this year alone. The issue is of course not just the vast disparity in weapons and power, but that one side is the occupier, the other the occupied.Hamas is likewise blamed for last month’s breakdown of the six-month tahdi’a, or lull. But, in a weary reprise of past ceasefires, it was in fact sunk by Israel’s assassination of six Hamas fighters in Gaza on 5 November and its refusal to lift its siege of the embattled territory as expected under an Egyptian-brokered deal. The truth is that Israel and its western sponsors have set their face against an accommodation with the Palestinians’ democratic choice and have instead thrown their political weight, cash and arms behind a sustained attempt to overthrow it.The complete failure of that approach has brought us to this week’s horrific pass. Israeli leaders believe they can bomb Hamas into submission with a “decisive blow” that will establish a “new security environment” – and boost their electoral fortunes in the process before Barack Obama comes to office.But as with Israel’s disastrous assault on Lebanon two years ago – or its earlier siege of Yasser Arafat’s PLO in Beirut in 1982 – it is a strategy that cannot succeed. Even more than Hezbollah, Hamas’s appeal among Palestinians and beyond doesn’t derive from its puny infrastructure, or even its Islamist ideology, but its spirit of resistance to decades of injustice. So long as it remains standing in the face of this onslaught, its influence will only be strengthened. And if it is not with rockets, its retaliation is bound to take other forms, as Hamas’s leader Khalid Mish’al made clear at the weekend.Meanwhile, the US and Israeli-backed Palestinian president Mahmoud Abbas has been further diminished by being seen as having colluded in the Israeli assault on his own people – as has the already rock-bottom credibility of the Egyptian regime. What is now taking place in the Palestinian territories is a futile crime in which the US and its allies are deeply complicit – and unless Obama is prepared to change course, it is likely to have bitter consequences that will touch us all.telegraph.co.uk

  11. Jackpoint, somehow i didnt get notifications abt your comments and hence the delayed approval.True, history may cloud our judgement.But if the two state solution was implemented, do you think that would leave israel satisfied? do you think that isreal will lose its hunger for encroachment..activities of isreal post 1967 have not reflected any such intent.Cheers for your comment, i posted your blog post as a a response, i think that sets the stage well.

  12. For the solution of two states to work, it needs to be accepted by both sides, which means naturally that Israel will need to stick to the borders assigned.In order to ensure that they stick top the borders a committee, like the Donor Co-Chairs in the SL instance, will need to monitor and exert pressure where needed. The key is in winning over the US. US support is what holds up Israel and that needs to be won if any meaningful pressure is to be brought to bear. Perhaps the EU, China and Japan (in addition to the US) could be involved as guarantors to hold the ring.It is difficult but with the new regime may not be impossible. The Palestinians need to work overtime the diplomatic front to try to win some favour with the new president. However one-sided it may seem, they need to announce a truce and stick to it and try and force concessions in return from the other side. This is difficult because the Palestinian leadership is split, something that is to Israel advantage and which they may or may not have actively fostered.It seems unfair to ask the Palestinians to make concessions first, but a solution is to the advantage of Palestine, not Israel. The uncertainty allows Israel to plunder at will so that needs to end and a meaningful peace process started. Israel will only make concessions when forced to (and there is no one to force them at the moment).Therefore Palestine needs to seize the initiative, somehow and that probably means a truce and a willingness to work with the aggressor. The strategy should be to have a proper roadmap with guarantors in place, announce a truce and then lock Israel into negotiations and then give them no opportunity to exit. Might is unfortunately right and I guess some deal is better than no deal, the people have suffered enough.The alternative to working on these lines is endless war which serves no one, least of all the Palestinians.ps. This is the same advice I give to Sri Lankans.

  13. The article is by King Abdullah, father of King Hussein.

  14. The two state solution will not work here. Though Israel advocates this, in hind sight they don’t want this and their two state premise is a ploy to extend the stalemate like the Oslo Road Map which never materialized.Israel will repudiate the 2 state theory for the following reasons:a)Arab demographic factor within Israel will overtake Zionist population over time and if they abide by true democratic values as they falsely espouse, the Israeli Arabs will become majority rulers in Israel. “Then the Match is over ” They call this the demographic Time Bomb and therefore of late as last week Israel was advocating expelling Israeli Arabs to post conflict Palestine.”Then the Match Begins Again” a new cycle of Zionist Holocaust of Palestinians.b)Israel is against the return of the Palestinian Refugees from Jordan, Iraq, Iran, Saudi,Lebanon and other countries into the Post Conflict Palestine as it will empower a weak Palestine with the required Human and material Resources and open out to the rest of the world. So that Israel will have a powerful Islamic state in Palestine even to the detriment of the puppets of the world powers of the region. Israeli unacceptance of this Right of Return of Palestinian Refugees will never satisfy the aspirations of the Palestinians when Alien Jews are being imported by Israel to bolster Zionist demography. Where in truth Return of Refugees is a Legitimate Right and Importing Aliens is an Illegal Settlement.C)In the midst of Israeli Blitzkrieg the Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Omlette says that he wish some country to take over Gaza. Is he hinting at Egypt to take over? Such a move by Egypt or any other regional state would lead to assimilation of Palestinians who will get diluted in the process and or inter Arab conflict will be formented by this just creating the suitable ambience for the implementation of the “PROTOCOLS OF THE ELDERS OF THE ZION” the Blue print for Zionist total domination of the world.LET THE WORLD DO NOTHING TO ZIONIST ACTIVITY TILL THEY REACH THEIR DOOR STEP, THEN TOO LATE.

  15. anonymous, i’m in open support of you…. can’t agree with the killing of innocent people in Gaza but Israel is here to stay and they are a people of destiny, people need to be careful on turning their backs to Israel as they are the chosen people, it is something the US understood a long time ago…. but its not something that can be expected to be understood by most bloggers or the rest of the world, so i rest my case….

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